There are two solutions to the euro crisis, UKIP MEP Nigel Farage
said in an interview with MMNews
in Berlin, Saturday (25.09.2010).
One is for Greece, and probably Portugal and Ireland, to be forced out and allowed to re-establish their own national currencies. The other, more radical solution is for the Germans to take back control of their lives and go back to the Deutschmark, which was a globally respected currency backed by "the Germans' reputation for fiscal responsibility and sound money."
Mr Farage was in Berlin to participate as a guest speaker at the Euro Action Conference
to discuss the illegality of the Greek bailout and the desire to return to the Deutschmark. He was interviewed by Michael Mross (pictured with Nigel Farage), covering the euro crisis, the EU's democratic deficit and the CO2
global tax scam.
"If you look at the economic figures coming out of Ireland this week,if you look at what's been happening to the bond markets in Portugal, and again in Greece, you realise that there are some huge problems here," Mr Farage said on the euro crisis.
"If people in Germany think the euro crisis is just about Greece, well I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you because you ain't seen nothing yet. Portugal's and Ireland's economies are possibly even in a worse state than Greece is. I think something may happen before Christmas.
"When it will finally break to pieces I can't say. But inevitably it will. It was just a huge cataclysmic error to forge into a monetary union Germany and Greece. It simply can't work."
Asked abut the EU's democratic deficit, Mr Farage said that "the fundamental problem in democratic terms with the European Union has been since Day One that it is the European Commission - the bureaucracy, the civil service, if you like - they're the one's that have the sole right to initiate legislation. They're the ones that have the sole ability to amend and change legislation."
All the European Parliament does is that "it does the bidding of the civil service." In a democracy it should be Parliaments that make laws and civil servants implement them, he added. "In Brussels it's the other way round."
"The bigger democratic question is: can the deficit be closed? Is there a way of democratising the European Union? And my answer to that is: right from the very word 'go' this was never intended to be democratic."
"So it intended to be undemocratic? A kind of junta?" Mross asks.
Jean Monnet, the father of this project, hated democracy because it was "terribly inconvenient", Mr Farage explained.
"People like Monnet, with their great global views, with their unshakable belief that they know what is best - that they know how we should live our lives - they don't want a system like that, they've got 10, 20, 50-year plans and democracy is highly inconvenient."
Mr Farage added that they had the opportunity to democratise the Union when they drafted the EU constitution (now the Lisbon treaty) but they refused to do so.
Asked whether the current EU is closer to the former socialist republics of Eastern Europe, Mr Farage referred to his "great friend" and former Soviet dissident, Vladimir Bukovsky, who has lived in England for around 30 years.
"Vladimir spent 12 years in and out of mental institutions in the former USSR, categorised as being 'mad' because he was opposed to the system... Vladimir says that what he sees with the development of the European Union is something very unpleasant. He has a chilling phrase. He says, 'I have lived in your future. And I didn't like it.'"
Concerning the CO2
tax scam to sustain global governance, Mr Farage said "I remember doing a programme about five years ago, when this whole topic came up, and I said, 'well hang on, I may not be a scientist but I think there is another argument going on here; that it is not definite that CO2 emissions are leading to increased temperatures.' And I was on with a British Labour politician, and he pointed at me and screamed, 'denier, denier' as if I committed something."
"Now it's interesting because I think people are beginning to wake up to this.
"Whether or not we are living through a period of global warming is open to question. But what I am certain of is the measures we are taking, supposedly to combat climate change, are leading to yet another reduction of our democracy; are burdening the poorest people in society with unnecessary bills and in terms of energy requirements, we're heading down a road that is absolutely mad," Mr Farage said, referring to Germany's 18,000 wind turbines.
"It's all well and good when the wind blows, but what happens in February when it's cold and we have fog and frost and we have a big anti-cyclone sitting over northern Europe? Not one of them turns. Not one of them produces any electricity at all."
Asked whether all this reminds him of a dictatorship, Mr Farage said: "Let the viewers make their own minds up. Basically I believe that this project isn't undemocratic, I believe it is fundamentally anti-democratic."
Is there room for optimism?
"What our career politicians are doing in all our member countries, for their own self-aggrandisement, for their own careers, for their own finances, what they have done is nothing less than to betray our nations, to betray our democracies, and to do it against the tide of public opinion. The gap between the governors and the governed is now a gaping chasm," Mr Farage said, adding that he was still an optimist:
"I believe that gap can be filled through peaceful and democratic means."